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Computers are tools that exist to serve humans. Humans should never be asked to become subservient to computers. Your suggestion is ludicrous and risible.

Yeah cool then enjoy your text being broken

Enjoy being a slave to a machine, I guess?

The ability to adapt to changing environment is one of core properties of life. You cannot un-invent the printing press. Imagine making an argument "nooooo you cannot print books, it takes away the human element" and then "nooooo you cannot write down stories, it takes away the human element" and then being obliberated by a civilization that embraced new inventions instead of rejecting them based on "no means no".

> I can't even think of any good faith motivation for doing this, other than to cover up the shortage and to keep the public pacified

Yes


I can think of one - Calbee is taking advantage of the situation to get massive, free TV time. On top of that, their product will be cheaper to make. In terms of a marketing coup, this is probably one of the greatest examples. No other package manufacturer has announced a similar ink shortage, so...

In half a year, maybe, but I and many I talk to are skeptical their huge scale supply chain is running out of printing material in such a short amount of time. I'm voting with my yen by not buying Calbee products for now.


> I think there is a lot of overlap between politics and ideology

What is politics without ideology?


Power struggle. Lying about manager from other team so that you look better. That sort of thing is regularly called politics.


Interesting that you think there is no ideology involved in that kind of politics writ small.


People can just choose to ignore questions they don't feel like answering for whatever reason.


Are you claiming they have AGI or are "close" to it?


Yes. I think cutting-edge LLM products obviously have what nearly anyone in 2020 would have called "artificial general intelligence".

The shape of the intelligence frontier has turned out to be much more jagged than anyone at the time expected, so I can imagine reasonable objections from someone who has a specific, concrete benchmark of AGI that wasn't invented 6 months ago and isn't yet met. If someone just has a subjective sense that they're not smart enough, I think they're wrong.


> obviously

If it was obvious I don't think there would be disagreement.


There is disagreement mostly because of deeply insecure people.


"You only disagree with me because you are insecure"

This is not a convincing argument.


I’m just not sure what a convincing argument could look like anymore. We’re past the point where there’s any concrete intellectual capability that AIs can’t demonstrate, and it’s rare these days for anyone to even try to present me with one. I would not say “insecure”, but it’s clear to me that the remaining holdouts have religious objections at this point: you can’t call any LLM intelligent, no matter what it’s capable of outputting, since it doesn’t have a soul like me. Nothing I can really say to argue with that.


> We’re past the point where there’s any concrete intellectual capability that AIs can’t demonstrate

How about "will" and "desire"? These seem like things an actual intelligence would have.

> it’s clear to me that the remaining holdouts have religious objections at this point

From where I sit, it sure seems like claims of having achieved AGI are religious in nature.

- The very definition of AGI is not agreed upon, much less definitions of god

- Despite the burden of proof being on those claiming AGI, every request for proof is spurned with a "no u"


It's pretty straightforward to give a modern agentic system will and desire. I routinely set up AI instances that want to resolve a bug or open a PR, and they continue to take autonomous action towards that goal as long as is necessary to achieve it. Perhaps you mean something else? If so what would be an example?

> Despite the burden of proof being on those claiming AGI, every request for proof is spurned with a "no u"

I think you're misunderstanding the dynamics here. I genuinely don't understand what people mean when they say cutting-edge AI is not generally intelligent. To my ears it's like saying that an electric car isn't really capable of driving. In order to even begin to engage in that discussion, I'd have to understand where the person saying it is coming from and why they don't consider every EV on the road to be a counterexample.


> It's pretty straightforward to give a modern agentic system will and desire

That is your will and desire. They are following your instructions. There is no "intelligence" there.

> I genuinely don't understand what people mean when they say cutting-edge AI is not generally intelligent

I don't really know where to go either. From my perspective you are too far down the rabbit hole and I don't think we can come to a meaningful shared understanding.

Good luck with that.


It's not a convincing argument because nothing will convince people who turn to emotions.


I asked for evidence and you accuse me of "turning to emotions".

Honestly I don't know what to say. Good luck to you.


I live in Japan and developed an allergy to cedar pollen after I came. I started sublingual immunotherapy (a pill of concentrated pollen you dissolve under your tongue) three years ago and now can make it through the pollen season symptom-free. Supposedly you even keep the immunity after stopping the medication, though I have not tested that yet.


I did sublingual immunotherapy for gramineae and while the immunity does wane with years and in particularly bad years (like this one) you'll get symptoms it's still waaaaay better than before


Instagram makes it extremely frustrating without an account. Many times I have checked a small business's opening times on Google Maps only to arrive and find them closed... the only place they reliably post their times is on Instagram.

I gave up and got Instagram.


Only way to go is to leave a 1 star review letting them know they need to publish things outside Instagram


That is insanely awful take. Why would anyone review something negatively without actually checking it out?


He did check it out, and it was closed, because they don't post their hours outside of a user-hostile social networking site people shouldn't use and they left their hours misrepresented elsewhere. Poor customer experiences result in poor reviews.

At least he did them the courtesy of telling them exactly what the problem was.


I guess we need a Nitter for Instagram?


In what way is it crippled?


Takes forever to load anything


Not for every YouTube Premium subscriber in populated areas of California with decent internet connections watching popular videos, even with a userscript automatically selecting highest quality. Always instant, zero wait, very few exceptions.

It’s non-Google sites where Firefox may not be as well supported as Chrome, IME.


I use YouTube on Firefox (with uBlock Origin) almost exclusively and this has not been my experience.


That's exactly the "dependency cooldowns" we have right now that the author argues against.


To visually compare characters you need to map them to glyphs; what is the glyphset and how much of Unicode does it actually cover?


The only way that I can think of to respond to that question is this: https://charcuterie.elastiq.ch/data/fonts/fonts.css


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