Well, the issue is complex and not as clear cut as Trump or Fox News would say. For example, land seized during apartheid has to be returned. Of course this would mean some white farmers would have to give back some of their land.

That's not what's being tabled up for discussion - land forcefully taken during apartheid already has an existing process and that land is mostly urban.

What's being discussed is forcible taking of white owned land 'just because' - there is no subtle point. That is the entire discussion.