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> Oh fun so basically no one will be able to setup their own email servers by themselves anymore. Antispam is killing the open internet now.

It's been a long time since you've been able to set up your own email servers without DKIM and expect that your emails will get reliably delivered to Gmail users, especially for bulk mail.

The second requirement is more or less already a legal requirement in the US, and the third is literally how anti-spam has always worked - the only difference is that Google is now saying that they'll publish the threshold publicly, rather than keeping it a secret.

This is technically news, but it's hardly a major shift.



This is my impression too. I briefly used emails from a domain I own to my gmail account as a way to send myself "notifications". My impression was that absolute table stakes to even make e-mail deliver work AT ALL were:

- non residential IP (I had to proxy through my VPS) - SPF - DKIM - use TLS with a modern cipher

And even with this, I still had to "favorite" (or whatever) AND set up a rule to "never send to spam" for my alerts@ sender address because I would still get them going to spam for no reason that I could find - I'd check the message and would see that SPF and DKIM PASSED and yet it was still going to spam.

I ended up switching to using webhooks to send alerts to a discord channel for a server that only had me in it. It works fine. It's a lot more surefire than trying to figure out email delivery


I have my personal mail hosted on a hetzner server using mailinabox. I didn't do anything fancy except whatever mailinabox's default config is.

I have no problem with email deliverability to gmail/outlook. I think the difference is that my emails are two-way communication. I email someone, they email back or vice versa. Not a continuous stream of unreplied emails from my personal server to some gmail address (which does look like spam).

I imagine if you set up a script to reply to these emails from your gmail account with lorem ipsum and then deleted those replies after a few days, your problems will disappear.




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