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Your tirade against an almost ridiculously broad spectrum of drugs isn’t at all similar to what’s being discussed here, and reeks of a hidden agenda or bias. Many, if not all, of the medications you listed have been a net benefit for the individual and the world.


ice pick lobotomies: Do I need to argue about this being bad?

electro shock therapy: were still doing this, there isnt good research to support it at all.

Quaalude addictive, banned in USA since 1984

Benzodiazepines, Valium, Xanax, Kolinapin: Addictive, withdrawal from these are brutal: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=benzodiazepines+suicide

MAOI: so well studied that we let them out in the public and then realized that taking them and eating leftovers could kill you.

SRRI: This is an entire class of drugs that is getting ripped apart by current research. There are studies that show they dont have greater benefit than placebo with therapy. There is new research that says they may be damaging in their own right and have massive withdrawal symptoms.

The term "replication crisis" started with psychology. And, though it has shown its face across much of academia, psychology on the whole looks particularly blighted. Modern research is having no problem turning over much of the last 30 or so years of drugs and research.

It. Is. Damming.

>> Many, if not all, of the medications you listed have been a net benefit for the individual and the world.

The only medication I mentioned with a leg left to stand on anywhere is the SSRI group:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jul/no-evidence-depression-c...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130402/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0... (hey better that we figure this out AFTER it has been on the market for 30 years right?)

To summarize all those links: A study that says serotonin isn't involved in depression. Another that is a meta analysis of SSRI research that says "no better than placebo" and the last one that says SSRI's have some gnarly withdrawal and you should taper off them (a multi month process).

So no I did not have a tirade against a broad spectrum of drugs. I had a tirade against the "treatments" that have, or are, turning out to be worse than the diseases they were treating.




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