You now have 18 comments in this thread. All of them shallowly criticizing the comments you reply to, including appeals to (vague) authority and a whole bag of tricks to make it seem as if the original commenter is clueless and you hold all the cards. I also don't see you take up any position of your own. What is your point with all this? That Ukraine should just roll over and accept that they're going to get bombed without ever striking back? That they should take into account all of the geopolitical effects of their moves before they think about their own survival? I can't make heads or tails of all of the words you've spent on this subject. Please enlighten.